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The PR defines our approach to handling modules that may contain components that are executed from within safe context in order to maintain FFI

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The created documentation from the pull request is available at: docu-html

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The specific Assumptions of Use relevant only for the users of a specific module are documented in the module's safety manual.
That means that the platform safety manual always has to be read together with all its modules safety manuals.

A platform module may contain both ASIL-relevant and QM components. The

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I think we should also define what that means for the verification of the component. What is the difference between asil relevant components and qm components in respect to our safety process

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added a reference to ASIL and QM Verification methods

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The specific Assumptions of Use relevant only for the users of a specific module are documented in the module's safety manual.
That means that the platform safety manual always has to be read together with all its modules safety manuals.

A platform module may contain both ASIL-relevant and QM components. The

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integrated into a target hardware which includes safety mechanisms which cover hardware related errors.

The platform allows ASIL and QM components to coexist within the same module.
Where components executing in an ASIL context depend on functionality that has

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As Assumed here, https://eclipse-score.github.io/score/pr-3139/platform_management_plan/software_verification.html#id1
there is already a requirement, if the concept requires components used as part of safety context, is must be ASIL, can directly derived from that stakeholder requirement

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this is not exactly a new requirement but an attempt to clarify how to apply that requirement in the context of a module that may contain components with different ASIL levels all while maintaining freedom from interference

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Yes, then it is more a safety concept to apply FFI on modules, which are QM, but also to be used from safety relevant component. The Safety Concept means, that the part for interacting with QM part shall be developed according to the required ASIL and run in the same context, etc.

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yes that was my intention, do you think the current update convey that or do you have a specific recommendation

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RC would be to explicetely mention, that it is a safety concept, and then explain it in a short as to split component in QM part and additional Safety Part, which allocates the safety requirements as you mentioned

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Is this the only change within score repository? Please also link to changes in other repositories if planned any?

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safety lifecycle and shall be developed, verified, and released according to
the corresponding ASIL process. Components that are not intended to execute
within an ASIL context may remain QM, provided that freedom from interference
with the safety context is justified in the respective module safety manual.

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I would have said FFI has nothing to do with the module safety manual. But you can refer to the platform AoU in https://eclipse-score.github.io/score/main/requirements/platform_assumptions/index.html#aou_req__platform__process_isolation

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Update speaks of a "is justified in respective feature DFA". I think it is not clear which feature DFA this is. I would propose to write instead "is justified in the feature DFAs of the ASIL rated features using the QM component"

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Inline comments and need to get rid of the "lifecycle" changes which are not relevant here.

as a whole. Components that are intended to execute within an ASIL context are in scope of the
applicable ASIL safety lifecycle and shall be developed, verified, and released according to
the corresponding ASIL process, see :need:`stkh_req__dependability__no_mixed_asil`.
Components that are not intended to executewithin an ASIL context may remain QM,

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typo "executewithin"

services, the frontend forms part of the ASIL execution context and therefore
must fulfil additional safety requirements derived from the need to maintain
freedom from interference. In contrast, the ``datarouter`` daemon executes as a
separate process and may remain QM, provided that the required freedom from

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I would remove the half-sentence "provided that the required freedom from provided that the required freedom from" as it was already stated above. But if you want to keep, please align with the proposed change above.

safety requirements to be allocated to components that otherwise only provide
QM functionality. Such requirements exist to preserve the integrity of the
safety context and are applied in addition to the component's functional
requirements.

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I would add here the clarification: "All the component's functional requirements will be promoted to ASIL level to ensure the application of the safety lifecycle." - because this is also what is done in the lifecycle example (at least this is what I understood during your presentation of the PR).

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