Technical Meeting 2026-08-26

[CsatariGergely]

Agenda

1. Priority PRs

• Remove overwriting the default HTTP transport porch#1112
• PIP - Enable to access a single file via the PackageRevisionResources API (EPIC) porch#915

3. Action Items Review
4. Push drafts to git not enabled in CI
5. kpt release plan?
6. PR triage
7. AOB

Attendance

• @zaadnsu

• @aravindtga

• @Catalin-Stratulat-Ericsson

• @efiacor

• @kushnaidu

• @mozesl-nokia

• @OisinJohnston2005

• @rendre-greyling

• @dgyorgy-nokia

• @timop62

• @ahmadu2305

• @JamesMcDermott

• If you are not in the attendance list add your GitHub handle to a comment under the discussion

Minutes

@CsatariGergely chaired the meeting.

Chairing of the technical meeting in August

• @CsatariGergely will chair the meeting on the 19th and 26th of August
• @efiacor will chair the 5th and 12th of August

Priority prs

• Remove overwriting the default HTTP transport porch#1112

  • Needs reviews. @efiacor will review
  • Already merged!

• PIP - Enable to access a single file via the PackageRevisionResources API (EPIC) porch#915

  • @mozesl-nokia proposed a solution in the isse

Kpt release WoW

2026-08-12:

• Investigate Workspace as a solution to avoid using the replace directive in go.mod
  • What gets committed to the repo?
  • Needs spike
  • Do we gain anything with this solution
• Alternative:
  • Split api changes to separate PR
  • Release api module
  • Any dependent functional changes pushed on new PR
  • Release kpt main
• next release
  • Merge Add sonar gen CI workflow #4686 ASAP
  • Release api
  • Then release kpt @mozesl-nokia
    2026-08-19:
  • Add sonar gen CI workflow #4686 merged
  • API was released https://github.com/kptdev/kpt/releases/tag/api%2Fv0.0.4
    2026-08-26:
• We discussed this in the community meeting
• @CsatariGergely will propose a PR

CEL Cond

2026-08-12:

• PR ready to merge? feat: Add CEL-based conditional function execution (#4388) #4469
• Consider wave it through and pick up the remaining pieces
• Hold off until after next kpt release - 68 (api 0.0.5)
  2026-08-19
• One more approval is needed from kptdev/approvers then it is ready to go
  2026-08-26:
• Merged now!

Push drafts to git not enabled in CI

• Redesign DB Draft and Proposed Pushing porch#1146 (Draft)
• Plan for walk through when ready (next week?)
• Doc updates will be done separately
  2026-08-12:
  • Ready for review
  • Good run through and stats
  • Long term plan would be refactor git
    2026-08-19:
  • Needs review from kptdev/approvers and kptdev/maintainers
    2026-08-26:
• Still waits for reviews

Refactor Performance Tests demo

• @rendre-greyling presented Refactor Performance Tests and expand Monitoring Stack porch#1122
• The dashboard is very professional looking
• Please review the PR and comment/approve
• Should be good to go
• Docs PR to be raised
  2026-08-19:
• Refactor Performance Tests and expand Monitoring Stack porch#1122
• Docs pr is in progress
  2026-08-26:
• Docs pr is not yet done

Move podevaluator to porch-server

• Move podevaluator to porch-server Move podevaluator to porch-server porch#1119
• Postpone till a future meeting when @dgyorgy-nokia is available
• Ready for review. Please do people
  2026-08-19: Needs review from kptdev/approvers (and kptdev/maintainers
  2026-08-26:
• Needs rebase
• Would need some documentation
• Gergely will check with Dosu people why Dosu is not picking up tasks like this.

ensure-name-substring does not work

• see issue The "ensure-name-substring" krm function does not work #4652
• We'll replace 0.2.4/0.2.3/0.2.2/0.2.1 with a version that errors out immediately
• We'll release 0.2.5 when the fixing PR Prevent ensure-name-substring from mangling file names krm-functions-catalog#1285 is merged
• 2026-07-29:
• Fix is merged and the e2e tests are now merged as well
• @mozesl-nokia has a version that prints an error message
• We should replace the v0.2.1 to v0.2.4 images with the version that prints an error message @mozesl-nokia and @efiacor to have a look
• Patched image built and pushed replacing the broken ones : Version of ensure-name-substring to use for retracted versions krm-functions-catalog#1286
• What to do with the patch PR?
  • Try to create a placeholder branch for it. Rulesets may need to be refined or overridden
• 2026-08-12:
  • Branch created and pushed changes there.
  • Issue with "latest" image getting the "error out" patch. Needs investigation!
    2026-08-19: No update
    2026-08-26: No update

Condition type discussion

• We will continue to use the custom condition type in kpt rather than the k8s one
• We should check duplicate types across Porch and kpt and see if there is some cleanup required. @liamfallon to come back next week on this.
• 2026-07-29:
• Should we use kpt types in Porch?
• In the Porch API, we generate a lot of stuff, if we use kpt types in Porch it can interfere with the OpenAPI generation
• It might be a better option to have the types generated manually and put them into the Porch code
• We need to have a conscious decision on how we want the types to work with each other.
• If we generate an OpenAPI definitin from the types in kpt, we could use that in Porch.
• 2026-06-10 to 2026-07-29: No Progress
• 2026-08-05 - 2026-08-26: No progress. Can be closed? @liamfallon

Splitting up repos into multiple modules

• How much do we want to fragment our repos?
• In kpt, the repositories could be pulled apart into multiple modules
• kpt and porch could be more modular
• The upgrades would become more complex but the dependencies would be clearer
• Upgrades might be smaller and impact less things
• First step is to stabalize the APIs
• What's the use of splitting the repos into modules in terms of security?
• For security it doesn't matter too much
• Some security tools looks at go.mod files
• The goal here is to make it easier for us, for example if cobra has an update, we shouldn't have to release the whole of kpt/porch
• We should document what the relationships between the modules in kptdev are first
• It could make releasing more complex, but if there are less releases to do maybe there is a tradeoff
• Would function-runner in Porch be a good case?
• First step, document all the kpt packages and their relationships and overlay Porch on them
• Elaborate the document to what structure we would like
• @mozesl-nokia will take a stab at this
• 2026-07-22: See [Proposal] Decouple Function Execution from Pipeline Step Definition #4647
• The auxillary points may be separate issues
• If people can read the proposal and we can discuss further next week
• We can add this proposal on the topic list for the face to face meeting
• We need to think how this would work with the CRD approach
• Having an operator for running functions would be very useful, a render scheduler
• The render scheduler should be includable in the porch server or in the render scheduler.
• 2026-07-29: Community members, please read and comment on [Proposal] Decouple Function Execution from Pipeline Step Definition #4647
• 2026-08-05: Still open for discussion. Maybe we look at some tooling to assist with this?
• 2026-08-19: No update. This is a potential topic for the architecture workshop.

kpt "printer" and logging

• @mozesl-nokia looked at the current implementation, it is not good
• A PR and issue will be created for improvements for this
• The output will be improved to be more structured
• Would changing the output break anything?
• The first thing is making the format of the log configurable and adding the package name to each line
• In the Issue @mozesl-nokia will describe the vision for this
• PR up for review - Improve logging of render pipeline execution (part 1) #4678
  • Phase 1
    2026-08-19:
• Related issue: Refactor the kpt printer package #4698
  2026-08-26: no progress

PRs to be reviewed

Open PRs — kptdev/kpt-samples

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#29	Fix references of GoogleContainerTools and gcr.io/kpt-fn/	aravindtga	false	20 hours	needs reivews from kptdev/approvers (2 approvals needed) and kptdev/maintainers
#28	Docs: Script added and README updated	Jaisheesh-2006	false	23 days	needs reviews from kptdev/approvers (2 approvals needed) and kptdev/maintainers
#23	Headlamp demo script	ciaranjohnston	false	23 March 2026	Has unadressed comments from Copilot
#17	Add some infrastructure packages	justinsb	false	03 October 2022	too old, closed
#16	Bank of anthos: kpt packages	droot	false	09 September 2022	outdated, closed
#15	feat: Add infra packages for Porch dogfooding	yuwenma	false	31 August 2022	outdated, closed
#13	POC: secret generated from init container	yuwenma	true	01 August 2022	outdated, closed
#12	ghost: Added mysql and ghost secrets	droot	false	02 August 2022	outdated, closed
#11	A simple POC to change non KRM files to a structured k8s resource	yuwenma	true	30 July 2022	outdated, closed

Open PRs — kptdev/kpt-backstage-plugins

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#161	Bump @backstage/cli from 0.26.6 to 0.36.3	dependabot[bot]	false	33 days	needs rebase. Gergely asked Dependabot to rebase, CI is failing
#156	Bump cypress from 7.7.0 to 15.18.1 in /packages/app	dependabot[bot]	false	33 days	needs rebase. Gergely asked Dependabot to rebase, CI is failing
#152	Bump react-router-dom from 6.30.4 to 7.18.1 in /packages/app	dependabot[bot]	false	33 days	Needs rebase. Gergely asked Dependabot to rebase,
#150	Bump step-security/harden-runner from 2.19.4 to 2.20.0	dependabot[bot]	false	42 days	Needs to retrigger CI. Gergely asked Dependabot to rebase hoping that this would trigger CI

Open PRs — kptdev/krm-functions-sdk

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#767	Bump kpt/api and others	efiacor	false	19 hours	merged
#678	CEL support for navigating the resource list	johnbelamaric	false	13 April 2026	We do not have a strong opinion if this should be closed or not
#643	feat: add --show-dockerfile to kfn build	yuwenma	false	29 January 2026	outdated, closed
#642	nit: replace unnecessary go install; update go mod	yuwenma	false	29 January 2026	outdated, closed
#627	WIP: Add Rename helper, along with ref visitors	justinsb	false	29 January 2026	Was a WIP, outdated, closed
#619	fix: add context result with field	zyy98	false	29 January 2026	outdated, closed
#607	feat: modifying error message for subobject	zyy98	false	29 January 2026	outdated, closed
#599	Improve functionRunner interface	yuwenma	true	29 January 2026	outdated, closed
#546	feat: KubeObject can choose fieldpath with "K=V" selector	yuwenma	false	29 January 2026	needs a rebase, outdated, closed
#521	[HOLD] fork kyaml and api to go/internal/forked	yuwenma	false	29 January 2026	outdated closed

Open PRs — kptdev/krm-functions-catalog

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#1294	added escape sequence for apply-setters	OisinJohnston2005	false	1 days	needs approval from kptdev/approvers
#1293	Fix set-namespace creating invalid CRD and APIService resources	aravindtga	false	4 days	needs reviews from kptdev/approvers (2 approvals needed) and kptdev/maintainers
#1292	Fix apply replacements respecting type	OisinJohnston2005	false	4 days	needs 2 approvals from kptdev/approvers (1 more approval needed) and kptdev/maintainers
#1291	Added example usages for config references with some existing krm functions.	OisinJohnston2005	false	19 hours	needs 1 approves kptdev/approvers (2 approvals needed) and kptdev/maintainers.
#1290	Docs: use Docsy alert shortcode and fix broken versioning link	aravindtga	false	11 days
#1064	[Feature] Set labels conditional spec selector	kemv	false	19 January 2026
#969	fix: avoid nameclashes by considering the filepath	bluebrown	false	19 January 2026
#930	feat: Add function set-standard-labels	yuwenma	false	15 June 2026
#926	Fix possible nil-pointer error; add golden test for set-name-prefix	justinsb	false	19 January 2026
#915	add wasm functionality to apply-setters and rewrite to new go kpt fn sdk	wmuizelaar	false	19 January 2026
#914	set-labels: added support for sourcing label values from other resources	droot	false	19 January 2026
#909	fix: set-image with more matching rules	zyy98	false	19 January 2026
#906	[WIP] proof test zyy98/image	yuwenma	false	57 days
#905	analyze-deps: initial version of dependency analyzer	droot	false	19 January 2026
#890	Add set-default-label function	yuwenma	false	19 January 2026
#737	docs: Add example on how to use list of object	irvifa	false	19 January 2026
#529	ci: add ci to enfore conventional commit	mengqiy	false	10 February 2026

Open PRs — kptdev/porch

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#1155	Add check for resources after render	efiacor	false	21 hours
#1154	Refactor scripts dir	efiacor	false	4 days
#1153	Version drift detection	efiacor	false	4 days
#1150	Update Webhook docs	efiacor	false	2 days
#1146	Redesign DB Draft and Proposed Pushing	rendre-greyling	false	2 days
#1143	Bugfix DB Cache E2E Tests not actually running with --db-push-drafts-to-git=true flag	Catalin-Stratulat-Ericsson	true	19 days
#1139	Refactor PackageRevision controller code for introduction of subpackage clone and upgrade	liamfallon	false	21 days
#1119	Move podevaluator to porch-server	dgyorgy-nokia	false	12 minutes
#1112	Remove overwriting the default HTTP transport	mozesl-nokia	false	6 days
#1019	FunctionConfig controller improvements 1	mozesl-nokia	true	03 June 2026
#976	Add documentation for FunctionConfig CRD and reconciler	mozesl-nokia	true	13 May 2026
#554	porchctl improvements	mozesl-nokia	true	18 May 2026
#246	WIP: Create remove fetches	nagygergo	true	04 March 2026

Open PRs — kptdev/kpt

Generated on 2026-08-26.

Number	Title	Author	Draft	Updated	Comment
#4709	Refactor: Move setup-go-kpt composite action from porch to kpt	aravindtga	false	21 hours
#4707	Docs: Add external link validation with lychee	aravindtga	false	22 hours
#4706	Add sonar fix and debug logging	efiacor	false	1 days
#4704	Fix Kptfile pipeline not updating on pkg update with fast-forward/force-delete-replace	OisinJohnston2005	false	2 days
#4703	Docs: use Docsy alert shortcode for notes and warnings	aravindtga	false	4 days
#4701	Add generated ApplyConfiguration types	mozesl-nokia	false	4 days
#4696	Error when explicit destination of pkg get already exists	gangadhar-res	false	1 days
#4695	Fix incorrect handling when unfetched packages are deleted from upstream	aravindtga	false	5 days
#4691	moved live logs to stderr	OisinJohnston2005	false	7 days
#4685	added inventory check in live destroy/status	OisinJohnston2005	false	12 days
#4679	Docs: Rationalize and document local-config annotation in the book	aravindtga	false	12 days
#4657	Adding SonarCloud config	CsatariGergely	false	26 days
#4636	Tag lister improvements (restructure files, pass TLS certificates)	mozesl-nokia	true	36 days
#4487	Proofreading chapter 2	mpgreaves	false	27 days
#4469	feat: Add CEL-based conditional function execution (#4388)	SurbhiAgarwal1	false	1 hours
#4427	fix(update): preserve Kptfile formatting during upgrades	Jaisheesh-2006	false	41 days
#4030	Test case for issue 4012 pkg update not updating kptfile	michaelvl	false	10 February 2026
#3367	[WIP] Function SDK guide	yuwenma	false	10 February 2026
#2230	Fix incorrect handling when unfetched packages are deleted from upstream	mortent	false	11 February 2026
#1513	WIP: prototype of nested package library	Liujingfang1	false	10 February 2026